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	<title>Comments on: Another learning opportunity &#8211; /ES Trade</title>
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		<title>By: Covered (kzhat)</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanbarr.com/trade-log/another-learning-opportunity-es-trade/comment-page-1#comment-876</link>
		<dc:creator>Covered (kzhat)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/ES is indeed a beast to trade!  I&#039;ve been playing around with a bunch of things CCI/$TICK, Ambushes etc... and overall feel like I&#039;ve got a pretty good system working out.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I posted a question on evil, re: how you trade RL levels.  I&#039;d love to hear about it as I am an RL subscriber and haven&#039;t yet found a great way to put them into my trading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/ES is indeed a beast to trade!  I&#39;ve been playing around with a bunch of things CCI/$TICK, Ambushes etc&#8230; and overall feel like I&#39;ve got a pretty good system working out.  </p>
<p>I posted a question on evil, re: how you trade RL levels.  I&#39;d love to hear about it as I am an RL subscriber and haven&#39;t yet found a great way to put them into my trading.</p>
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		<title>By: Covered (kzhat)</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanbarr.com/trade-log/another-learning-opportunity-es-trade/comment-page-1#comment-859</link>
		<dc:creator>Covered (kzhat)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/ES is indeed a beast to trade!  I&#039;ve been playing around with a bunch of things CCI/$TICK, Ambushes etc... and overall feel like I&#039;ve got a pretty good system working out.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I posted a question on evil, re: how you trade RL levels.  I&#039;d love to hear about it as I am an RL subscriber and haven&#039;t yet found a great way to put them into my trading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/ES is indeed a beast to trade!  I&#39;ve been playing around with a bunch of things CCI/$TICK, Ambushes etc&#8230; and overall feel like I&#39;ve got a pretty good system working out.  </p>
<p>I posted a question on evil, re: how you trade RL levels.  I&#39;d love to hear about it as I am an RL subscriber and haven&#39;t yet found a great way to put them into my trading.</p>
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		<title>By: elkate</title>
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		<dc:creator>elkate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ryan,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for writing about this setup, I am sure you will learn from this mistake and probably never make it again, it&#039;s all mind games nowadays. In any case you have done a great job here. Wanted to find out from you what is the downtrending internal indicator you used here.  Thanks and good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ryan,</p>
<p>Thanks for writing about this setup, I am sure you will learn from this mistake and probably never make it again, it&#39;s all mind games nowadays. In any case you have done a great job here. Wanted to find out from you what is the downtrending internal indicator you used here.  Thanks and good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: BalaB</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanbarr.com/trade-log/another-learning-opportunity-es-trade/comment-page-1#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>BalaB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking Good Kzhat.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Trading the ES is a beast.....I don&#039;t do it unless I have an RL.  &lt;br&gt;Kudos for you in trying it out...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking Good Kzhat.  </p>
<p>Trading the ES is a beast&#8230;..I don&#39;t do it unless I have an RL.  <br />Kudos for you in trying it out&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Covered (kzhat)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Covered (kzhat)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, it was more than a few iPods :) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not really upset about it, I&#039;m just frustrated that I&#039;ve been my own worst enemy for the past couple of days. In fact, looking back on the entire trade I am VERY pleased with the setup.  My analysis was SPOT ON, I I had whole thing setup perfectly, entry target, stops, protective exit - all of it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m a very patient options trader, and I&#039;ve had very sizable gains trading options.  This whole futures business is new to me and I think the &quot;Active Trader&quot; pink and green flashing numbers mess with my mind.  I&#039;ve been closing that down as soon as the trade is in and my trading has been much better.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Watching the ticks and dollars move around isn&#039;t productive for me.  If the setup is clean, get a clean entry, set your stops and go away.  It&#039;s just actually doing it.  Kind of like working out... I know I should... It&#039;s just doing it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it was more than a few iPods <img src='http://www.ryanbarr.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I&#39;m not really upset about it, I&#39;m just frustrated that I&#39;ve been my own worst enemy for the past couple of days. In fact, looking back on the entire trade I am VERY pleased with the setup.  My analysis was SPOT ON, I I had whole thing setup perfectly, entry target, stops, protective exit &#8211; all of it.  </p>
<p>I&#39;m a very patient options trader, and I&#39;ve had very sizable gains trading options.  This whole futures business is new to me and I think the &#8220;Active Trader&#8221; pink and green flashing numbers mess with my mind.  I&#39;ve been closing that down as soon as the trade is in and my trading has been much better.</p>
<p>Watching the ticks and dollars move around isn&#39;t productive for me.  If the setup is clean, get a clean entry, set your stops and go away.  It&#39;s just actually doing it.  Kind of like working out&#8230; I know I should&#8230; It&#39;s just doing it <img src='http://www.ryanbarr.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: InthePink</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try giving away Macbooks, now that really sucks!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hey man, I have done the exact same thing many times before in trading and it definitely sucks. Even TK has been a victim to early stops geting triggered. However, think about a few things:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. You didn&#039;t lose any money (in fact you made a profit)&lt;br&gt;2. You implemented a good trading strategy &lt;br&gt;3. You didn&#039;t know that you could have made almost 9 points before you entered the trade&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I used to constantly beat myself up over thinking about how much money I COULD have made on a trade, but there&#039;s no point in doing that. Trading is a zero sum game and the fact is, you have no idea whether the market will go up or down, but have edges that will give you better odds in a particular direction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The important thing here is that you have developed a good trading strategy and have perhaps learned a lesson. Remember that you never know what will happen, but you have a good feeling about what could occur. So just be patient, wait for a setup trade to occur, then implement it with all of your rules. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Take care and GL!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Oh, and I have twitter, it&#039;s &quot;inthepinktrades.&quot; &quot;Inthepinktrading&quot; was too long apparently, haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try giving away Macbooks, now that really sucks!</p>
<p>Hey man, I have done the exact same thing many times before in trading and it definitely sucks. Even TK has been a victim to early stops geting triggered. However, think about a few things:</p>
<p>1. You didn&#39;t lose any money (in fact you made a profit)<br />2. You implemented a good trading strategy <br />3. You didn&#39;t know that you could have made almost 9 points before you entered the trade</p>
<p>I used to constantly beat myself up over thinking about how much money I COULD have made on a trade, but there&#39;s no point in doing that. Trading is a zero sum game and the fact is, you have no idea whether the market will go up or down, but have edges that will give you better odds in a particular direction.</p>
<p>The important thing here is that you have developed a good trading strategy and have perhaps learned a lesson. Remember that you never know what will happen, but you have a good feeling about what could occur. So just be patient, wait for a setup trade to occur, then implement it with all of your rules. </p>
<p>Take care and GL!</p>
<p>- Oh, and I have twitter, it&#39;s &#8220;inthepinktrades.&#8221; &#8220;Inthepinktrading&#8221; was too long apparently, haha</p>
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